Wow.
That’s the only word I can use to describe the Adobe customer service experience I just had. And not in a good way. So here’s the recap:
I use an Intel-based MacBook Pro for work. I need to buy Photoshop CS2 to do some of my graphics tasks. I’ve hesitated to spend $700+ dollars on CS2, since it doesnt have Universal support (i.e. optimized for the Intel chips). Adobe has just posted the CS3 beta, which has Universal support, which requires a CS2 serial number to use. Fair enough, I can live with the serial number limitation.
But I didn’t want to spend $700+ on CS2, only to have to spend another $700+ when CS3 launches in "Spring 2007" (according the Adobe Web site). After spending 20 minutes digging around the Adobe Web site to find info on the licensing issues, I gave up and called the 800 number.
The phone system gave me four options, one of which was general customer service. I chose this option and was immediately given hold music. No message that I was being transferred, no notification of hold time, nothing. After waiting 40 minutes, I hung up. I called back and this time selected product sales. My hold time? 1 minute. Priorities are clear, no?
I was asked for my name (clearly in preparation for kicking off an ordering process I wasn’t ready to start), and instead responded "Actually, I just have a quick licensing question". I posed my question and was told that there would be a $169 upgrade fee when CS3 came out. I asked if I could avoid this extra upgrade fee if I waited a bit longer, thus closer to the launch of CS3. She said no, because they didn’t know when the product would launch. I made a comment about it being listed on the site as "Spring 2007", so perhaps I should wait until early 2007?
This is when things really went off the rails.
The rep, a female named Tony/Toni got really irritated. She said she wouldn’t leak information and potentially lose her job. (To be clear, I made no request, overt or covert, for her to leak anything) I told her I was just referring to information listed on Adobe.com. Almost as though she’d never heard me say this, she launched into a fairly harsh response, explaining that the standard product cycle for Creative Studio is 1 – 1.5 years. This therefore means CS3 is at least a year away from launch, and how nothing formal had been announced about CS3. (Jake’s note: Other than the ability to download the CS3 beta currently on Adobe.com)
From here the conversation fell apart quickly, reaching a point where I asked: "I’m sorry but I have upset you in some way?". She responded that she was simply upset she couldn’t answer my questions to my satisfaction and how she didn’t even know who she was talking to (remember – I skipped over the formal information collecting stage). Both of these points were made in the same overly irritated tone that she had now adopted.
Quite honestly, this is exactly what I expected from Adobe. This is exactly the experience I’ve had with Adobe for years. This type of behavior towards consumers is exactly what I had feared when Adobe bought Macromedia. I hear from my former Macromedia, now Adobe employee friends that Adobe has made a real effort to keep the amazing consumer focus that Macromedia was always able to pull off. I don’t see it, at least not in the customer service department.
Boy, I’m really excited now to spend nearly a $1000 ($700+$169+taxes and shipping) on a single piece of software. Would someone be willing to kick me in the head while enter my credit card number on amazon in order to complete the overall experience?
Gavin Heaton
December 20th, 2006 17:44
I have been a fan of Macromedia for years, but was very concerned when Adobe bought them out. It is not looking good!
Gavin Heaton
December 21st, 2006 0:44
I have been a fan of Macromedia for years, but was very concerned when Adobe bought them out. It is not looking good!
John Dowdell
December 22nd, 2006 8:47
I'm sorry for the unhappiness, and will forward your note to others inside Adobe too.
What you describe is indeed a difficult situation. The MacTel-native versions of the Creative Suite apps have been projected for spring 2007 since before I even heard of the Macromedia acquisition, but lots of current Photoshop customers were in pain due to the lag in release cycles between hardware and software. That was the main driver for this week's preview release of an early MacTel-native version.
But there's no purchasing of next spring's CS3 yet, true. This puts those who are using an older version in a difficult position, because you can't use the preview for its speed boost for daily work like current customers can.
(The internal Service & Support lines have had heavy volume this week, and the Sales lines may be outsourced to a sales vendor, if that background helps.)
Sorry I don't have a better answer than this, but I'll escalate your complaint internally... you're not shouting into the void, if that info helps.
jd/adobe
Jake
December 22nd, 2006 10:30
John,
Thanks so much. I can certainly understand the volumes and the increased stress levels. I appreciate you taking the time to make the point of sharing my concerns.
As far as the dev cycle, I'm honestly not concerned. It's problematic, to be sure that the Universal versions are coming, but honestly, I understand that dev cycles sometimes conflict with other worldly realities.
My only desire was to have the Web site, and of course the call centers, have a bit more clarity about the licensing realities. Solve that and I'm happy.
Again, huge thanks for listening.
John Dowdell
December 22nd, 2006 15:47
I'm sorry for the unhappiness, and will forward your note to others inside Adobe too.
What you describe is indeed a difficult situation. The MacTel-native versions of the Creative Suite apps have been projected for spring 2007 since before I even heard of the Macromedia acquisition, but lots of current Photoshop customers were in pain due to the lag in release cycles between hardware and software. That was the main driver for this week's preview release of an early MacTel-native version.
But there's no purchasing of next spring's CS3 yet, true. This puts those who are using an older version in a difficult position, because you can't use the preview for its speed boost for daily work like current customers can.
(The internal Service & Support lines have had heavy volume this week, and the Sales lines may be outsourced to a sales vendor, if that background helps.)
Sorry I don't have a better answer than this, but I'll escalate your complaint internally... you're not shouting into the void, if that info helps.
jd/adobe
Jake
December 22nd, 2006 17:30
John,
Thanks so much. I can certainly understand the volumes and the increased stress levels. I appreciate you taking the time to make the point of sharing my concerns.
As far as the dev cycle, I'm honestly not concerned. It's problematic, to be sure that the Universal versions are coming, but honestly, I understand that dev cycles sometimes conflict with other worldly realities.
My only desire was to have the Web site, and of course the call centers, have a bit more clarity about the licensing realities. Solve that and I'm happy.
Again, huge thanks for listening.
eric
January 5th, 2007 9:45
I fully agree with your comment about adobe's customer service. I had a similar experience of very poor customer service. I was on hold for a long time to answer a simple question. I had to provide them with a lot of information before they would even say word one to me --I'm glad you bypassed that part, I had no choice since I had already placed an order with them and they would not talk to me unless I gave them information for "security" purposes even though I gave them a "case number" that only I could have had since they sent it to me. This is customer service worse than any I have encountered. I think it may be worse even than the phone company or cable company!
eric
January 5th, 2007 16:45
I fully agree with your comment about adobe's customer service. I had a similar experience of very poor customer service. I was on hold for a long time to answer a simple question. I had to provide them with a lot of information before they would even say word one to me --I'm glad you bypassed that part, I had no choice since I had already placed an order with them and they would not talk to me unless I gave them information for "security" purposes even though I gave them a "case number" that only I could have had since they sent it to me. This is customer service worse than any I have encountered. I think it may be worse even than the phone company or cable company!